Criteria FAQ

Effective January 1st 2008

Congratulations (or not)! You’ve just been admitted into the Insane Asylum, a place where once again you can be normal and get the respect you rightfully deserve. Main Maniac has set these ground rules/criteria that he hopes can clear up some of the confusion regarding levels, streaks and what counts as an “official” race.

Q. Do I need to maintain my current Maniac level status by achieving the criteria each and every year?

A. No. Once a Maniac, always a Maniac (provided that you renew your annual membership dues). You don’t have to even complete another marathon or ultra after you are admitted into the Insane Asylum, though we’d much rather prefer that you’re out there participating in the events.

Q. Do I need to achieve all three criteria mentioned in a level in order to progress to a higher level?

A. No, you only need to achieve one of the mentioned criteria in a level to progress.

Q. For my best streak, does it have to be attained in a calendar year?

A. No, Main Maniac has relaxed the rules…it can overlap in 2 years, so if your streak of 6 marathon in 6 months (Silver level) was run from October 2006 – March 2007, then it officially counts.

Q. If I run a double marathon, say a 52.4 miler in one race, can I count that as 2 marathons? Can a 100 miler count as 3+ marathons?

A. Unfortunately no, it’s still considered ONE event counted towards your total number of races completed in the Insane Asylum. Remember, you’re out there running ultras because you truly want to run the distance, not to pad your stats!

Q. I don’t have access to a computer, so I really can’t update my marathons list. In addition, I don’t have time to update my marathon list because I’m out of town every weekend running these marathons…Can I still qualify for the “Maniac of the Year” Award?

A. Main Maniac can’t track everyone’s results through marathonguide.com or ultra web sites, so it’s imperative that you add your completed races in the Insane Asylum. So the answer is no, if you choose not to add your races, then you will not be eligible for the “Maniac of the Year” Awards.

Q. I’m part of a marathon relay team in which each member is running ~6.7 miles each, but after I complete the first leg, I’d like to run with the other 3 members on their respective “legs” and run the entire marathon. Can I count that as a completed marathon?

A. While technically you may have run an entire marathon, you were not registered to run in the full marathon event, just the relay, so sorry, it would not count. But at least you provided good company for your teammates!

Q. I’m part of a team doing the Haney to Harrison Relay and just about all of the members had to drop out due to altitude, hills and other stuff, resulting in my having to run 5 miles for the first leg and 27 miles for the next leg…can I count this as a marathon or even as an ultra finish (32 miles total?)

A. First off, you need to pick more reliable teammates, and if I were you I would make them pay for your meals, drinks, massage, etc…for getting you into this fiasco. But worst of all…IT DOESN’T COUNT!!

COUNTING YOUR RACES

After much debate and discussion, the following guidelines have been established as to what constitutes an “OFFICIAL” race that would count towards your stats in the Insane Asylum and thus be eligible for any “Maniac-type” awards, starting January 1, 2008.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE PARTICIPATE IN THESE RACES FOR THE LOVE OF RUNNING, TO STAY IN SHAPE, THE CAMRADERIE WITH OTHER RUNNERS, TO TEST OUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL LIMITS AND PURELY JUST TO HAVE FUN. THE MARATHON MANIACS CLUB WAS CREATED WITH THOSE TRAITS IN MIND. WE CAN BE SERIOUS AND AT THE SAME TIME JUST HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FUN. PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE KNOW WE CAN’T PLEASE EVERYONE!!

  • The race must be at least 26.2 miles in distance: starting in 2008, some races that are advertised as marathons but are actually shorter (Breckenridge et al.) will not count.
  • The race must have all of the following characteristics in order for it to count:
    • at least 5 starters and 3 finishers (effective January 1st, 2014 at least 15 starters and 10 finishers)
    • a race director
    • official results posted by the race director on an “official web site” or newsprint
  • The race must be advertised (paper, flyers or posters in an athletic store, web site or other means of communication) at least 1 month prior to the event. We feel that this is ample time in allowing other Maniacs (and non-Maniacs) to have knowledge and to make plans should they want to participate in the event.
  • If you finish after the official closure time of the event, you can still count the event in your stats.
  • If you were directed off-course by a volunteer and thus were not able to complete 26.2 miles……THEN IT DOESN’T COUNT! KNOW THY COURSE!
  • If the race director decides to call the race halfway due to reasons that would compromise safety and the well being of participants (aka 2007 Chicago, 2006 Fox Cities, etc..) and would result in not completing the event, then it does not count. Your safety and health is paramount, before any statistic (don’t you become one!). However if you happen to finish before the race is called and are given an official finishers time, then it does count.
  • Bandits Beware! Should you decide to “bandit” a race and have no race number, good for you for getting in a “training run” because that’s all you’ll get. IT WON’T COUNT IN YOUR STATS! And please don’t take any of the refreshments and food that the legitimate registered runners paid for.
  • Running under someone else’s name by buying their bib: NO!…PLEASE DON’T even think about it!! Register earlier or try the lottery next year!
  • Training runs 26.2 miles or greater (either alone or with a group WILL NOT count towards your marathon stats.
  • Ultra marathons: You must finish the stated distance in order for the ultra to count. For example, say at the White River 50 miler, you start heading up Fawn Ridge in the heat of the day and you start getting heat stroke…soon those magical words appear..”I DON’T FEEL SO GOOD”. You drop out at the 32 mile mark. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately when it comes to your health) it counts as a DNF (did not finish), not as an ultra finish. Even if you finish 99 miles of a 100 miler and had to drop out, IT DOES NOT COUNT. There’s always next year. Remember, you run these longer distances purely for the love of it!
  • Timed races: Some races are advertised as timed events, say 6, 12 24 hour and even 6 day runs. For the 6-hour run, you must complete 26.2 miles for it to count as a marathon, and if over that distance, an ultra. For the 12 and 24 hour runs, you must complete 50km in distance in order for it to count as an ultra. A 6-day race…sorry, it still counts as one event (provided that you complete at least 50 km), but at least you’ll impress your fellow Maniacs and get even more respect!
  • Race Directors and Volunteers: We applaud your efforts for putting on races for runners and volunteers for helping out. However, if you are to run YOUR marathon, you need to do it at the same time the participants are running it, not while you’re marking the course a week earlier or even making a “dry” run the day before. This also pertains to runners whom may want to make arrangements with the race director to run their race the day before only because they have another marathon scheduled the next day. Try to hand over the reins of being the director to a non-runner for a few hours so you too can enjoy running your event!

We are certain that there may be many more circumstances that need “interpretation” of the rules but we’ll cross that bridge when we get there. If you have any questions, concerns or comments regarding these rules, please e-mail the Main Maniacs. In the meantime…HAPPY RUNNING!!